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1. Introduction of Board and Audience. Chairman Harry Sondheim called the meeting to order at 7:03 p.m. with the reading of the Purpose of the PPCC as stated in its Bylaws. Members of the Board and Audience introduced themselves.

2\. Adoption of Minutes. Minutes of the meeting of May 24th were adopted without change. 3\. Announcements and Concerns. 3.1 Treaurer's Report. The Treasurer reported that as of June 28, 2001, there is $8,396.19 in the PPCC checking account and $4,741.24 in the savings account. 3.2 The Chairman reported that our Newsletter’s request for expressions of interest in PPCC issues was responded to by about 24 residents. These requests have been summarized and distributed to Area Representatives who are asked to keep these residents informed in advance of discussion of the issues at PPCC meetings. 3.3 Jack Allen reported that our geological report on 222 Coperto has been filed with the Department of Building and Safety. Ruling on the issues has been postponed through the intervention of our Councilwoman in order to allow time for us to meet with her and the City geologist to explain the City geologist’s decision to approve the construction of the house despite the concerns raised by the independent geologist. The Coastal Commission has ordered a review of this matter and Jack Allen will be meeting with the Commission geologist and Mr. Ronen’s geologist on July 9th at the property. 3.4 The Chairman reported that he has sent a letter to Arthur Eck, Superintendent of the Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area stating the consensus reached by our subcommittee on the Draft General Management/Environmental Impact Statement for the Santa Monica Mountains Recreation Area. A copy of this letter is available for any Board member for review; a copy is filed with these minutes. 3.5 The Chairman reported that residents neighboring 17633 Castellammare have retained a geologist to review the geology reports of the developer. His report is expected to be submitted to the Hearing Officer before the end of July. 3.6 The Chairman reported on the temporary closure by the DWP of an area near the Chautauqua Reservoir due to a landslide. 3.7 Tony Morris spoke for Citizens for Aerial Fire Protection. He described the use of the Super-Scooper and the advantages that would accrue from having it available at the Van Nuys airport on a full time basis. This aircraft costs $22,000,000. We currently lease one for a limited period of time each year from Quebec. Mr. Morris is seeking support for the purchase of the aircraft to add to an arsenal which already has several types of aircraft, including helicopters. Concerns about the proposal were raised by members of the Board and it was noted that the Community Council had previously rejected a similar proposal. Discussion of this issue will be placed on our agenda in August or September. 3.8 Art Mortell has been elected as Area 5 Representative on a motion by Patti Post (seconded by Marguerite Perkins Mautner) as a result of Patti Detroit having resigned from the position. Alan Bishop now remains as the sole Alternate for the Area. 3.9 The Chairman reported that he has received materials from the Y.M.C.A. regarding acquisition of property in Temescal Canyon. These documents are available for review by any Board member. 3.10 Jack Allen reported that building has been proposed on the steep slopes on Paskenta above Rivas Canyon. Area 5 Representative Art Mortell was asked to keep us informed of hearings on this matter. We have previously taking a position in opposition to building in this area and we will retain this position until we have more information. 3.11 Plans for diversion of surface water in Santa Monica Canyon and at PCH and Temescal are in the making. There may be associated traffic issues when these projects eventually come up in 2002. 3.12 Paul Glasgall reported that we now have a speed trailer on Palisades Drive. We will also be assessing speed on major thoroughfares in the Palisades. Paul plans on calling on homeowners’ associations for help with this. He stated that we are now getting more cooperation from the LAPD. Art Mortell reported that the LAPD has indicated that we now have more motorcycle traffic officers on the West Side. 3.13 Signage re mountain lions will be increased in the Highlands due to recent sightings. 4\. Old Business. 4.1 Jack Allen asked whether our Board should take further action regarding the Los Angeles Citywide General Plan Framework. Barbara Kohn moved (motion seconded by Kurt Toppel) that we support the Hillside and Canyons Federation position: (1) No statement of overriding considerations be approved; (2) Effective mitigation and/or limits on growth be adopted; (3) A new EIR be prepared; (4) An annual review be prepared for every year since 1996 as proposed by the City; (5) The proposed findings of the City be rejected. The motion passed with the understanding that our previous position is also still valid, namely: That the PPCC requires the provision of sufficient public infrastructure and services, including transportation, school and recreation facilities to support the projected needs of the City’s population and businesses within the patterns of use established in the Community Plans as guided by the Framework Citywide Land Use Diagram, prior to permitting any intensification of existing land uses as set forth in the Diagram. A letter to the Planning and Land Use Management Committee will be prepared by the Chairman and Jack Allen. 4.2 Discussion of Proposed Bylaws Revision \-- Postponed until our next meeting. 4.3 Election of Officers. The Chairman called for additional nominations of candidates for Board offices. Hearing none, he closed nominations and appointed Ron Dean to count ballots. All candidates on the slate presented by the Nominating Committee were elected. These are: Harry Sondheim, Chair; Ted Mackie, Vice-Chair; Lisa Maki, Secretary; Patti Post, Treasurer. 5\. New Business. 5.1 Creation of Neighborhood Councils was discussed by Xandra Kayden, President of the League of Women Voters. She has been holding workshops on this subject. She stressed some of the advantages of becoming a Neighborhood Council, namely, support in funding, staffing, resources and advice from the City and that these groups would have political clout in City government. Other plusses are that it is probable that the obtaining of City services will be expedited and that the Councils will be an important voice for the communities. A particular advantage is that, through the Congress of Neighborhood Councils, experiences and issues can be shared with other Neighborhood Councils. Disadvantages suggested by various members of our Board were application of the Brown Act, accounting requirements and the effects of conflict of interest rules. Ms. Kayden said that our new Mayor, Jim Hahn, is appointing a Deputy Mayor for Neighborhoods with the result that it is likely that the Neighborhood Councils will be able to impact the City budget. It was unclear whether she is correct in stating that it will be mandatory for every area of the City to be included in a Neighborhood Council. 5.2 P.R.I.D.E. has asked to become a member of the PPCC Board. The organization will be asked to make a presentation to our Board in the near future on this request. 5.3 Larry Jacobs presented a report of the Communications Committee. The report was presented in summary since it had already been distributed to the entire Board by e-mail, fax, or U.S. mail. The subjects covered were (1) Media and other resources, (2) Use of news releases and articles, (3) The desirability of appointing and the duties of a Public Information Officer, (4) Postings, (5) Targeted mailings via postal carrier routes, (6) The use of our web site, (7) A speakers bureau, (8) Assistance obtained from the Department of Neighborhood Empowerment, and (9) A budget. Finally, the report recommended that all of the activities outlined in the report be put into effect as soon as practicable and that all of the identified resources be fully utilized. The following motions were made by Larry Jacobs and seconded by Ted Mackie for the purpose of facilitating the recommendations of the Committee: (1) The Chair of the PPCC may appoint a Public Information Officer (PIO) to serve at the pleasure of the Chair. The PIO will have the authority to publish News Releases and other information pertaining to the PPCC and its activities consistent with our bylaws. Expenses incurred by the PIO must be pre-approved by the Board if they exceed the amount budgeted or already approved by the Board. Motion passed with one abstention. (2) The Board authorizes the PPCC to make targeted mailings by postal carrier route when requested by an Area Representative or an Officer of the PPCC and when the content is consistent with our bylaws. Costs of such mailings must be pre-approved by the Board if they exceed the amount budgeted or already approved by the Board. Motion passed unanimously. (3) The Board authorizes publication of information and comments by Area Representatives on our web site when the content is consistent with our bylaws. Motion passed unanimously. (4) The Board requests the Treasurer, together with the PIO, to present it with an annual budget proposal for public relations/information activities prior to the start of the fiscal year beginning in 2002. Until such time as such a budget has been established, an operating fund of two hundred dollars ($200.00) is hereby approved for the activities outlined in this report, with no single expenditure to exceed fifty dollars ($50.00). Motion passed unanimously. Adjournment. The meeting was adjourned at 9:22 p.m. The next meeting will be at Mort’s Oak Room on Thursday, July 26, 2001 at 7:00 p.m. Minutes submitted by Acting Secretary Larry Jacobs _________________________ [Return to top of page](https://pacpalicc.org/index.php/minutes-from-2001/)
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##### MINUTES FOR MAY 24th 2001

Board Members Present: Ted Mackie, Lisa Maki, Harry Sondheim, Larry Jacobs, Barry Kurtz, Stuart Muller, Barbara Kohn, William Snyder, Arthur Mortell, Richard Blumenberg, Isabel Kayser, Laura Tan, George Wolfberg, Neven Karlovac, Patti Post, Jack Allen, Larry Niles, Lorraine Oshins 1\. _Introduction_ _of Board and Audience_. Chairperson Harry Sondheim called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. and read the purpose of the PPCC according to the bylaws. Members of the Board and audience introduced themselves. 2\. _Adoption of Minutes_. The minutes of the previous meeting were read and adopted with the following changes: Page 2, paragraph 3.6. The 2nd sentence is amended: “The project was submitted to the MTA by the City…. Page 2, 2nd paragraph 3.6 should be 3.7 and the following paragraph numbers were adjusted accordingly. The 1st sentence of paragraph 3.7 is amended: “To deal with the issues of unsafe driving and speeding on this street, LADOT is planning to create edge line striping to make the road appear narrower in the hopes of slowing traffic down.” 3\. _Announcements and Concerns_. 3.1 Treasurer’s Report. Patti Post announced that there is $5,018.53 in the Council's checking account and $4,737.93 in the Council’s savings account. 3.2 Bel Air Bay Club Hearing of May 24, 2001. Harry Sondheim reported that the Board sent an e-mail to the Club in lieu of attending this meeting. The e-mail outlined three conditions which had to be met for the Board to support the proposed renovation to the Club in accordance with the Board’s prior motion. The conditions related to changes in the signage on the waterfront, landscaping maintenance and trimming and accommodation of the City’s Bicycle Plan. The Club voluntarily agreed to seek changes to the signage and to arrange for the necessary landscaping work. The City Deputy Advisory Agency incorporated mitigation measures that1 adequately responded to the Board’s concerns about the bicycle path. As a result of all this, the e-mail stated that the Board supported the renovation of the Bel Air Bay Club. 3.3 222 Coperto Hearing of May 22, 2001 by the PLUM Committee. Jack Allen attended this hearing. Prior to the hearing, a discussion was held and the hearing was postponed for 30 days to allow completion of the geological report by Ed Michaels to be submitted and reviewed. PPRA put the money up to pay for Ed Michaels’ fee. Mr. Michaels’ report concludes that the issue of surface water and hydrology was not sufficiently analyzed by the City or the developer’s geologist. The Department of Building and Safety will present its conclusions at the next hearing on this matter without any further public input to the PLUM Committee and the Committee will then decide what it recommends. 3.4 Community Council Board Member Nominating Committee. Larry Jacobs is head of this committee, which consisted of himself, Ernie Meadows and William Snyder. The Committee recommended the incumbents, Harry Sondheim, Ted Mackie, Patti Post and Lisa Maki to serve as next year’s officers. Nominations close on June 28, 2001, at which time the Board will elect its officers. If anyone would like to add other nominations, they should contact Larry Jacobs. 3.5 Storm Drains. Harry Sondheim reported that he received notice from Debbie Dyner that a City storm drain project in Santa Monica Canyon will stop the flow of runoff onto the beach and divert it into the sewer system from 4/11/01-10/31/01. There will be a meeting on 5/29/01 at 10:00 a.m. in the City Councilwoman’s office in West Los Angeles to discuss the project and George Wolfberg and Stuart Muller will attend. 3.6 Exposition Boulevard Transit Project. Mr. Gershon Lewis presented the views of the “Friends 4 Expo Transit” concerning the proposed busway or light rail train on a transit route running from downtown to Santa Monica. Motion: Barbara Kohn made a motion that the Council discuss the proposal for 8 minutes. The motion carried with 6 members voting in favor, 5 against and 1 abstention. Mr. Lewis’ organization supports light rail over a busway system and cited the recent Texas Transportation Institute study. To access it see _www.friends for expo4_. There is an MTA meeting on the proposal set for June 24, 2001; written comments are due June 15, 2001. Concerns about light rail include traffic congestion, safety and pollution. Some members were in favor of the proposal with grade separations. One Board member noted that she was uncomfortable with the Board taking any position on the proposal unless the community was notified so members could present their support or opposition. Motion: Barbara Kohn made a motion to table the discussion to a future meeting. The motion passed. 3.7 YMCA Meeting of May 24, 2001. Harry Sondheim attended this meeting after receiving a phone call from the Councilwoman’s office. The purpose of the meeting was to bring parities together on land issues in Temescal Canyon Park as it relates to the YMCA and the conservancy. It was determined that another meeting would be held in the future. Other persons present at the meeting were Joe Edmiston (by telephone), Randy Young, Frances Shalant, Nancy Markel, Councilwoman Miscikowski, Kristen Montet, Peter Taft, Douglas Kay, Mark Elswick and a person named “Corwin.” 3.8 MTA Bike Path from Temescal Canyon to Coastline Drive. The Board has previously approved this project. The project was submitted by the City to the MTA but was rejected, likely due to the perception that the bike path has little commuter value. Barry Kurtz conducted a “commuter survey” of persons on the bike path on May 14, 2001 between 5:30 a.m. and 8:30 a.m. and found that 27.5% of the persons riding bikes on the path were using it to commute to work. The information was submitted to the City to present to the MTA and the matter was put over for 2 weeks in order for the MTA to make a decision. There is an effort to obtain monies from other sources than the MTA to fund the project. 3.9 Pacific Palisades Community Council Newsletter. Ted Mackie, Harry Sondheim and Ernie Meadows have completed the Newsletter and it will be sent out in the mail next week. 3.10 Future Board Meetings. Harry Sondheim reported that the Board of Neighborhood Commissioners meeting, arranged by the Pacific Palisades Community Council Board, will be held on Thursday, June 14, 2001 from 6:00 to 9:00 p.m. at Mercer Hall, Palisades High School. This meeting is in lieu of the PPCC Board's regular meeting on the second Thursday in June and all Board members (both representative and their alternates) are urged to attend. The next Board meeting will be held on June 28, 2001. At this meeting there will be a discussion of the bylaws and the officer’s election. Xandra Kaden, Pesident of the League of Women’s voters will also be present to discuss Neighborhood Councils. The next meeting will be on July 26, 2001. At this meeting, the Board will discuss the Exposition Boulevard Transit issue. The next meeting after that will be on August 23, 2001. After the August 2001 meeting, the Board will resume its usual schedule of two meetings per month. 3.11 Theatre Palisades. Isabel Kayser announced that the theatre’s next production of “Company” would open on June 1, 2001. Everyone is welcome to the party after the opening performance. There are senior citizen discounts for this and other productions. Those interested in attending should contact the box office. 4\. _Old Business_. 4.1 Discussion of the Committee Report on the Draft Management - EIS for the Santa Monica Mountains Recreation Area. Jack Allen distributed a draft letter addressed to Mr. Arthur Eck, Superintendent of the Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area. A copy is attached to the minutes [note: attachment not included/unavailable]. The EIS presents three alternatives concerning the use of the recreation area: Preservation, Recreation and Preferred. Jack recommends the Preferred alternative because it balances the more restrictive Preservation alternative and the Recreation alternative. There was Board discussion about potential conflicts on the trails between bikers, hikers and horseback riders. Jack also noted that the EIS does not adequately identify and quantify impacts on the environment. Because of this, mitigation measures cannot intelligently be discussed. Motion: Patti Post made a motion that a committee meet to review and revise Jack’s letter to submit by the deadline. The motion was seconded and unanimously passed. The committee will consist of Jack Allen, Barry Kurtz, Stuart Muller, Lisa Maki and Harry Sondheim and will meet to review, discuss and revise Jack’s letter that must be submitted before May 30, 2001. 4.2 Update on recent efforts to obtain authorization for development of property at 17633 Castellammare - Jack Allen. A hearing on the coastal permit for this property will be held on May 30, 3001. The property is located in a landslide area. The owner of the property, Mr. Ben Leeds and his representatives were invited to attend the Board meeting to discuss the project. The owner and geologist were not available to attend the meeting because of prior commitments. The owner’s architect, Mr. Umberto Capiro, 4218 Glencoe Avenue, Marina Del Rey, (310) 578-5734 was present and discussed the project but left the meeting before the Board and audience discussion had concluded. Jack Allen presented a map of the subject parcel and an Exhibit lodged with the coastal commission, which was prepared by Fountain Geology. Jack expressed concerns with the City’s approval of the project because he believes that the project’s hydrology has not been adequately examined, for example, borings were not made at all necessary locations, the borings were not deep enough and the reports submitted on behalf of the owner were old, some predating the 1994 earthquake which has changed the geology of this landslide prone area. Members of the community were also present and discussed their concerns. The appeared to be happy with the physical appearance of the project but were afraid of what would happen to their property and the two adjoining parcels if Mr. Leed’s project is completed as planned on this very steep hill. They also noted that a very recent home is cracking and showing signs of the effects of erosion and slippage. The engineer on Mr. Leed’s project is VPL. There was further discussion as to who bears the responsibility when there is a structural failure or landslide which damages public or private property. The project architect agreed to discuss the possiblity of obtaining a bond for the project. Members of the audience discussed the possiblity of hiring a geologist to review the existing plans and geological reports. Lisa Maki made a motion to disprove the project. The motion was revised and voted upon. Motion: That the Zoning Administrator hold the project file open for 30 days to permit a licensed geologist to review the existing geological reports. The motion was seconded and passed unanimously. _Adjournment_. [Adjournment time not recorded.] The next meeting is on 6/28/01 at 7:00 p.m. in the Oak Room of Mort's Deli. Minutes submitted by Lisa Maki, Secretary _________________________ [Return to top of page](https://pacpalicc.org/index.php/minutes-from-2001/)
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##### MINUTES FOR MAY 10th 2001

Board Members Present: Ted Mackie, Lisa Maki, Harry Sondheim, Larry Jacobs, Barry Kurtz, Ernie Meadows, Stuart Muller, Kurt Toppel, Marguerite Perkins-Mautner, William Snyder, Helen Cutler, Lynette Guy, Laura Tan, George Wolfberg, Neven Karlovac, Patti Post, Jack Allen, Norma Spak, Larry Niles, Robert Baker, Patty Detroit 1\. Introduction of Board and Audience. Chairperson Harry Sondheim called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. and read the purpose of the PPCC according to the bylaws. Members of the Board and audience introduced themselves. The Board welcomed new alternate Bob Baker. 2\. Adoption of Minutes. The minutes of the previous meeting were read and adopted. 3\. Announcements and Concerns. 3.1 Treasurer’s Report. Patti Post announced that there is $5,243.13 in the Council's checking account and $4,737.93 in the Council’s saving’s account. 3.2 Bylaws Committee draft of proposed revisions to the Board’s Bylaws - Kurt Toppel. Copies of this draft as prepared by the committee consisting of Kurt Toppel, Jack Allen, Larry Jacobs, Harry Sondheim, Stuart Muller and Loretta Ditlow were distributed to Board members and are attached to the minutes. All Board representatives and alternates who did not receive a copy of the draft should contact Jack Allen or, after May 30, Kurt Toppel, so that each Board member is prepared to discuss the draft at the second meeting in June 2001. 3.3 Status of Draft Plan for Neighborhood Councils - Larry Jacobs. A Board of Neighborhood Commissioners meeting, arranged by the Pacific Palisades Community Council Board will be held on Thursday, June 14, 2001 from 6:00 to 9:00 p.m. at Mercer Hall, Palisades High School. This meeting is in lieu of the PPCC Board's regular meeting on the second Thursday in June and all Board members (both representative and their alternates) are urged to attend. The purpose of this meeting is to obtain answers to issues of concern to the PPCC Board so as to enable the Board to decide whether to become a neighborhood council. Larry attended the city council meeting where the final draft was discussed and voted on. The final draft varied from the prior draft and Jack Allen noted that he was unhappy by the City’s approval of the revised plan because of signature requirements related to becoming a council under the plan and also because it took away flexibility and the plan appears to favor developers. Marguerite Perkins-Mautner asked if we will need to change our financial status if we become a council under the city plan and whether the council would receive funding. Jack Allen noted that the council is currently not a 501 C3 organization and that if the council receives funding under the new plan, we will be required to submit to the demands of the city. 3.4 Update on recent efforts to obtain authorization for development of property at 17633 Castellammare - Jack Allen. A hearing on the coastal permit for this property will be held on May 30, 3001. The property is located in a landslide area. The owner and his/her representatives will be invited to the next Board meeting to discuss the project and all those interested in voicing their support or concern will have an opportunity to express their views. 3.5 Report on PCH Task Force Meeting - Larry Jacobs. Larry Jacobs attended this May 3, 2001 meeting. Shelia Kuehl established this task force when she was an assembly member. The PCH sewer project is being cleaned up and will be closed down for the summer to re-open in the fall. It should be completed in the summer of 2002. The Will Rogers State Beach Border Enhancement Plan was also discussed. The project calls for uniform renovation, including upgrades to the parking lots and landscaping. The issue of power poles on the beach sided was not included in the project nor were bike paths. The issue of left turns into parking lots is being studied. Other issues discussed were the CHP notification procedures concerning traffic problems and smart crosswalks. The crosswalk at Entrada and PCH was denied by CALTRANS due to concern over traffic delays. 3.6 Update on efforts to extend bike path from Temescal Canyon to Coastline Drive - Barry Kurtz. The Board has previously approved this project. The project was submitted to the MTA by the City but was rejected, likely due to the perception that the bike path has little commuter value. Discussion was had concerning building the bike path to Sunset only, in hopes that funds would become available for further extensions in the future. Barry Kurtz agreed to do a “commuter survey” of persons on the bike path on Monday between 5:30 a.m. and 8:30 a.m. to determine how many people were using the bike path to commute to work. Chris Bingham of the city council woman’s office noted that Cindy Miscikowski plans to appeal the denial of the funding for the bike path. Motion: The council voted unanimously (with Ernie Meadows abstaining) to have Board members Harry Sondheim and Barry Kurtz write a letter to Cindy Miscikowski to request that she support the MTA funding of the extension of the bike trail. 3.7 Report on developments regarding traffic measures on Bienveneda - Patti Post. To deal with the issues of unsafe driving and speeding on this street, LADOT is planning to create edgeline striping to make the road appear narrower in the hopes of slowing traffic down. This area is unsafe for LAPD to pace cars. The speed limit cannot be lowered on this street because of the way that the street was mapped in the Federal Map book. Kurt Toppel mentioned the new stop signs on Lachman Lane and the Board discussed the possibility of using yield signs instead of stop signs. 3.7 Los Liones Mural. Ted Mackie announced that the Palisades Art association, Temescal Canyon Association, and the historical society will celebrate the completion of the Los Liones Mural created by Terry Bromberg. All are welcome. The celebration will be held at the Mural on Saturday, May 19, 2001 at 11:30 a.m. 3.8 Traffic Issues - Patti Post. Patti Post attended the community police advisory board (CPAB) traffic committee meeting. She learned that the CHP has a phone number for traffic complaints. It is 1-888-TELL-CHP. The CHP community liaison is Officer Clemente. His email address is _aclemente@chp.ca.gov_. The West Traffic Division has brought on 5 new officers and will get 5 more in July 2001. These officers will be in cars, not motorcycles. West Traffic is loaning one of its traffic officers to the WLA division on Butler to train patrol officers about traffic hot spots and other traffic issues. The Los Angeles Department of Transportation plans to conduct a neighborhood traffic management study in Santa Monica Canyon to deal with resident complaints on Entrada, Mesa and Amalfi. Some of the complaints may be related to the reduction in traffic lanes on West Channel, causing people to drive through Rustic Canyon to avoid the delays. 4\. _New Business_. 4.1 Proposal to prohibit west-bound traffic from crossing Temescal Canyon at Bowdoin Street from 7:15 a.m. to 7:45 a.m. on school days. The city is conducting surveys and research on a proposal to close Bowdoin Street during peak hours to address resident complaints and improve the flow of traffic. Present from the city to discuss the surveys was Mr. Mohammed H. Blorfroshan, transportation engineer, (310) 575-8138. A street map and the surveys were distributed to the Board and are attached to the minutes. Audience members living on Radcliffe noted the severe traffic congestion on their street. The traffic problems are due to the Palisades High School traffic and also what was called the over-use of the Palisades women’s club. Some expressed concern about closing Bowdoin, as it is the only way to exit this area of the Palisades onto Temescal. The left turn lane from Sunset onto Temescal Canyon was also discussed. Harry Sondheim read a letter written to the Board which discussed the overuse of the streets and speeding in that area and the obvious safety concerns. One solution was to increase officer enforcement and the possible placement of a “fake” patrol car at or near the intersection of Bowdoin and Sunset. Mr. Blorfroshan agreed to conduct another survey of the area after school is out for the summer and to discuss the matter with LAPD and Palisades High School staff. Discussion will also be had with Officer Ragsdale concerning the use of the Palisades Women’s Club. Mr. Blorfroshan is to let the Board know when he has finished obtaining additional information so that this matter can again be put on the agenda. 5\. _Old Business_. 5.1 Update on Board’s appeal of 222 Coperto - Jack Allen. Jack Allen distributed a map of the subject area and parcel in question to the board. An appeal of the City’s approval of this project was filed. Hearing on the issue was postponed to May 22, 2001. Jack Allen noted that the City will not take our appeal seriously unless we have facts concerning the danger of grading and construction in the area from a licensed geologist. He proposed the use of geologist Ed Michaels to provide his analysis of the drainage reports and other documents to support the Board’s appeal of the city’s approval of the plan, which will be reviewed by the PLUM committee. Mr. Michaels agreed to work at the rate of $150.00 per hour, not to exceed 10 hours to perform the above services. Motion: Kurt Toppel made a motion to approve the Board’s payment of Ed Michaels’ professional services in this regard. The motion was seconded and voted upon. The Motion did not carry: Nine members voted in favor of the motion, five voted against and one abstained. The Chair did not vote (as his vote would not have changed the outcome.) _Adjournment_. [Adjournment time not recorded.] The next meeting is on 5/24/01 at 7:00 p.m. in the Oak Room of Mort=s Deli. Minutes submitted by Lisa Maki, Secretary _________________________ [Return to top of page](https://pacpalicc.org/index.php/minutes-from-2001/)
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##### MINUTES FOR APRIL 12th 2001

Board Members Present: Ted Mackie (Acting Chair), Larry Jacobs, Laura Tan, Jack Allen (Advisor), Isabel Kayser, Mauricio Vecchione, Richard Blumenberg, Marguerite Perkins Mautner, Scott Wagenseller, Loretta Ditlow, Arthur Mortell, Bret Williams, Paul Glasgall, Patti Post, Frank Wilson (Advisor), Sharon Hays, Norma Spak, George Wolfberg 1\. Introduction of Board and Audience. Acting Chairman Ted Mackie called the meeting to order at 7:07 p.m. with the reading of the Purpose of the PPCC as stated in its Bylaws. Members of the Board and Audience introduced themselves. 2\. Adoption of Minutes. The minutes of the March 22nd meeting were adopted without change. 3\. Announcements and Concerns. 3.1 Treasurer's Report. The Treasurer reported that there is currently $5,259.13 in the PPCC checking account and $4,734.43 in the savings account. 3.2 The Chair noted that the Bylaws Committee Report is not yet ready. It will be presented at our next regular meeting. 3.3 A Directors and Officers Insurance Policy has been issued to the PPCC. Any member of the Board wishing to review this policy may do so by contacting the Chair. 3.4 Larry Jacobs and Jack Allen reported that the Draft Plan for Neighborhood Councils is close to its final adoption by the Government Efficiency Committee of the City Council and should be ready for presentation to the City Council sometime in May. The new target date for implementation by the Department of Neighborhood Empowerment is October 1, 2001. There are a number of issues that are still being considered by the Government Efficiency Committee, particularly that of the requirement that 250 signatures be gathered by each prospective Neighborhood Council to verify that there is a diversity of interests represented in each council; alternatives to this requirement are being examined. Some of the other provisions of the plan, while perhaps unnecessary and sometimes more cumbersome than they need to be, would not interfere with our ability to qualify for certification. Issues of importance to the PPCC will be brought up at our Forum which will be a part of the regular Board of Neighborhood Commissioners meeting at Pali High on June 14th. 3.5 The Chevron Station at the southeast corner of Entrada and PCH is seeking to add a mini-market. A Coastal Permit is required from the City of Los Angeles. No hearings have yet been scheduled. 3.6 Scott Wagenseller reported that a permit for a ten-lot subdivision on the Bernheimer property was denied by the Coastal Commission. We are awaiting further information from the City on this matter. The PPCC has previously agreed to a five-lot subdivision on this property. 3.7 Paul Glasgall, Chair of the Traffic Committee, reported that yesterday, a woman on a bike was killed on Palisades Drive. This has finally spurred interest on the part of the City. Today, a City speed trailer appeared on the street. A traffic light is being considered for Palisades Drive as are several traffic calming efforts for the Palisades. The Committee, with the assistance of an LAPD motorcycle officer, are training volunteers for a traffic surveillance team. Glasgall asked that neighborhood groups work with the Committee on issues such as speed bumps, traffic surveys, etc. 3.8 Isabel Kayser reported that sound equipment is needed for the Pierson Playhouse for Bob Sharka’s film festival; specifically a digital projector, XGA 1024x768 1000 lumens. Contact Theater Palisades about this. 4\. Old Business. 4.1 Discussion of the Draft General Management/Environmental Impact Statement for the Santa Mountains Recreation Area \-- Deferred to a later meeting of the PPCC. 4.2 Frank Wilson opened a discussion of the report of the Mansionization and View Protection Committee. His report is appended to the minutes of our March 22nd meeting [note: attachment not included/unavailable.] There was concern expressed that the guidelines presented in the report may not work for a 5,000 square foot lot when the space for a 400 square foot garage is taken into account and that the guidelines must also work for lots as small as 3,800 square feet. There is also a need to tailor rules for different areas and to provide guidelines for replacement of existing homes. A member of the Marquez Knolls Homeowners Association reiterated his request, first made at our March 22nd meeting, that we must discourage view obstruction and not defer consideration of this issue. Amotion, offered by Marguerite Perkins Mautner, that we send this matter back to Committee to consider additional input from members of the community, passed unanimously. 4.3 Jack Allen reported on our 222 Coperto appeal. At a Coastal Commission hearing, staff recommended approval of the project. However, Jack was successful in his arguments for better grading and stabilization of the slope and the Commission is now seeking more environmental review. Jack expressed the opinion that the PPCC needs to have a geologist on whom we can rely for advice on geology-related matters such as this. Our appeal was officially denied because it wasn’t heard within the required 18 days; we must now file an appeal with the City Council. A motion was offered by Patti Post that the Board authorize the additional appeal and a filing fee of $71.00; as this is our second $71.00 payment, we are to attempt to get one of the fees refunded. This motion passed by a vote of 13 for, 0 against, 2 abstentions. 5\. New Business \-- None. Adjournment. The meeting was adjourned at 8:31 p.m. Since the Citizen of the Year banquet is scheduled for Thursday, April 26th, our next regular meeting will be at 7 p.m. in Mort’s Oak Room on Thursday, May 10th. Minutes submitted by Acting Secretary Larry Jacobs _________________________ [Return to top of page](https://pacpalicc.org/index.php/minutes-from-2001/)
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##### MINUTES FOR MARCH 22nd 2001

Board Members Present: Harry Sondheim, Ted Mackie, Sharon Hays, Larry Jacobs, Neven Karlovac, Isabel Kayser, Barbara Kohn, Chris Martin, Ernie Meadows, Carl Mellinger, Stuart Muller, Larry Niles, Lorraine Oshins, Marguerite Perkins-Mautner, Kurt Toppel, William Snyder, Laura Tan